A new marijuana-based drug will soon be available for some epilepsy patients, but another drug might work even better.
Motley Fool Staff
GW Pharmaceuticals (NASDAQ:GWPH)
made a big splash last month when the Food and Drug Administration
granted approval to its Epidiolex, a purified formulation of
cannabidiol, a chemical compound found naturally in marijuana. The
approval sets the stage for more widespread use of marijuana in
epilepsy. However, new data from trials evaluating another drug, Zogenix's (NASDAQ:ZGNX) ZX008, calls into question whether marijuana is really the best treatment option.
In this clip from The Motley Fool's Industry Focus: Healthcare, analyst Kristine Harjes and Motley Fool contributor Todd Campbell discuss how Epidiolex and ZX008 could soon wind up competing against each other in this important market.
It's actually not yet available for sale because we're still waiting for it to be scheduled by the Drug Enforcement Administration.
The reason that we bring all of this up again is because there's some
new news on the competition front in this space. Before we get to that
competition, Todd, do you want to add any details on GW Pharmaceuticals'
Epidiolex
Todd Campbell: Investors should know basically what it is. It's a purified version of cannabidiol.
We call that CBD. If you ever hear anybody talking about marijuana and they mention CBD, that's what it is. It's one of well over 100 different things that go into making up the marijuana plant. As a matter of fact, it's the second most common thing found in the marijuana plant, accounting for about 40% of its extract -- the most common, obviously, is THC.
CBD is very intriguing to medical researchers because, unlike THC, it does not cause the euphoric high that's associated with smoking marijuana. People are thinking, if CBD is useful medically, we can get away with doing that without exposing patients to the risk of that euphoria.
The other thing that I think is interesting to know, Kristine, we obviously want to update investors on what's going on with GW Pharma, we want to talk about Zogenix, which is the competitor that just had some really interesting news come out. But, I came across this stat as I was doing my research for today's show, and it really surprised me. We don't talk about epilepsy much on this show. Did you know that there are more people with epilepsy than Parkinson's, autism, and multiple sclerosis combined?
Harjes: Wow, that's super interesting. Although,
with these drugs, we are talking about very, very specific types of
epilepsy that are extremely rare. But, it's interesting how widespread
the broader indication is.
Campbell: I think investors have to recognize, because it's such a large patient population, and because, yes, we're talking about Dravet Syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome specifically, there is obviously the potential for this to get used off-label by doctors -- once Epidiolex got approved, and once it becomes available, doctors can write prescriptions for it off-label. There's also the chance for other studies to get done in other, more common forms of epilepsy.
Harjes: That's super interesting. Let's move right along to the competitor, which is another twist and turn in this story that's worth mentioning. The company, as you alluded to, is called Zogenix, ticker ZGNX. They had massive trading days on the market on Thursday and Friday of last week.
They gained 32% of their total market cap over those two days alone, based mostly on the successful Phase III data that they reported in their drug ZX008 in Dravet Syndrome.
Campbell: Zogenix is up 415% since last August. That's a mind-numbing return. Of course, the excitement is due to ZX008 and the potential for it to maybe elbow market share away from Epidiolex, if it eventually gets FDA approval. Last fall, they reported positive outcomes from their first Phase III data in Dravet Syndrome, showing that they could reduce monthly seizures in this tough to treat patient population. Then, last week, they had the results come out for their second Phase III trial -- again, significantly reducing monthly seizures in this patient population.
Kristine, you and I talk about it all the time, you can't compare two
separate studies head-to-head against one another, it's just bad
science to do so. But it's very hard not to do that as an investor,
especially when you look at Zogenix's information or data showing a 63%
median reduction in monthly seizures for these patients vs. Epidiolex,
which, depending on the trial, had a reduction of between 40-50%.
Arguably, what you could probably safely say is, both of these drugs are
very effective.
Harjes: You're right that it's bad science to compare, but the reason that we always follow that statement with a "but ... " is, people out there in the world, if you're a doctor looking to prescribe one of these two drugs, you're going to see those numbers. Even if you know they haven't been tested head-to-head, if you're looking for something to differentiate them, that's a very easy way to make the decision.
But -- here's another but -- safety is going to end up being an even more important part of this.
Something that I want to point out from the Zogenix press release is that ZX008 was stated to be generally well-tolerated in the Phase III study, with adverse events consistent with those observed in earlier studies, and also consistent with the known safety profile of Fenfluramine. That's what ZX008 is a low dose of.
Todd, I want to get your input here on what you make of that, given that this drug, Fenfluramine, was part of the infamous Fen-Phen, an obesity drug that was pulled from the market back in the 1990s due to cardiovascular side effects.
Campbell: Breathing new life into an old, discarded drug. Fen-Phen was heralded for its ability to help battle back obesity. However, when push came to shove, after it got used in the real world, it was discovered that it could increase the risk of cardiovascular problems that could lead to death. So, the FDA asked for it to be removed from the market. I'm sure that many people will be weighing that in the back of their minds, doctors and patients, if ZX008 makes its way past the FDA to the market and they're trying to compare these competing drugs.
So far, in hundreds of patients studied by Zogenix, we have not seen any scary cardiovascular signals. It may be that they found the sweet spot, the right amount of dosing that wouldn't cause the cardiovascular problems, but still has efficacy.
The thing that investors ought to realize, too, though, is, you might think, "OK, this is a slam dunk, ZX008. It's Fen, who's going to want to prescribe that?" But, it wasn't like Epidiolex came through with a squeaky-clean safety profile, either. As a matter of fact, patients who get prescribed that drug will have to undergo constant monitoring to make sure they don't end up with elevated liver enzymes, because that was a problem that was observed in its trials.
There's a little bit of a debate here between, we have these two very efficacious products for a patient population that's in desperate need. Remember, Kristine, these people are suffering dozens of seizures per month. Frankly, they don't respond to the current antiepileptics on the market. The difference in 10% of efficacy when you're having dozens, that's a significant efficacy difference, theoretically.
Kristine, I think it'll just come down to perceptions -- how do people perceive marijuana vs. how they perceive Fen-Phen.
Harjes: Yeah, absolutely. Price could be another component, but at this stage, it's too early to tell.
In this clip from The Motley Fool's Industry Focus: Healthcare, analyst Kristine Harjes and Motley Fool contributor Todd Campbell discuss how Epidiolex and ZX008 could soon wind up competing against each other in this important market.
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Kristine Harjes: We'll kick things off this episode
with an update on the epilepsy drug market, specifically certain types
of childhood onset epilepsy that respond poorly to existing treatment
options. Last month, a company called GW Pharmaceuticals, ticker GWPH,
won approval for the first-ever marijuana-derived drug, which was
approved to treat Dravet Syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome. We
touched on this on our April 25th episode after the drug got a thumbs-up
from the FDA's advisory committee. Then, the drug went on to be
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It's actually not yet available for sale because we're still waiting for it to be scheduled by the Drug Enforcement Administration.
Todd Campbell: Investors should know basically what it is. It's a purified version of cannabidiol.
We call that CBD. If you ever hear anybody talking about marijuana and they mention CBD, that's what it is. It's one of well over 100 different things that go into making up the marijuana plant. As a matter of fact, it's the second most common thing found in the marijuana plant, accounting for about 40% of its extract -- the most common, obviously, is THC.
CBD is very intriguing to medical researchers because, unlike THC, it does not cause the euphoric high that's associated with smoking marijuana. People are thinking, if CBD is useful medically, we can get away with doing that without exposing patients to the risk of that euphoria.
The other thing that I think is interesting to know, Kristine, we obviously want to update investors on what's going on with GW Pharma, we want to talk about Zogenix, which is the competitor that just had some really interesting news come out. But, I came across this stat as I was doing my research for today's show, and it really surprised me. We don't talk about epilepsy much on this show. Did you know that there are more people with epilepsy than Parkinson's, autism, and multiple sclerosis combined?
Campbell: I think investors have to recognize, because it's such a large patient population, and because, yes, we're talking about Dravet Syndrome and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome specifically, there is obviously the potential for this to get used off-label by doctors -- once Epidiolex got approved, and once it becomes available, doctors can write prescriptions for it off-label. There's also the chance for other studies to get done in other, more common forms of epilepsy.
Harjes: That's super interesting. Let's move right along to the competitor, which is another twist and turn in this story that's worth mentioning. The company, as you alluded to, is called Zogenix, ticker ZGNX. They had massive trading days on the market on Thursday and Friday of last week.
They gained 32% of their total market cap over those two days alone, based mostly on the successful Phase III data that they reported in their drug ZX008 in Dravet Syndrome.
Campbell: Zogenix is up 415% since last August. That's a mind-numbing return. Of course, the excitement is due to ZX008 and the potential for it to maybe elbow market share away from Epidiolex, if it eventually gets FDA approval. Last fall, they reported positive outcomes from their first Phase III data in Dravet Syndrome, showing that they could reduce monthly seizures in this tough to treat patient population. Then, last week, they had the results come out for their second Phase III trial -- again, significantly reducing monthly seizures in this patient population.
Harjes: You're right that it's bad science to compare, but the reason that we always follow that statement with a "but ... " is, people out there in the world, if you're a doctor looking to prescribe one of these two drugs, you're going to see those numbers. Even if you know they haven't been tested head-to-head, if you're looking for something to differentiate them, that's a very easy way to make the decision.
But -- here's another but -- safety is going to end up being an even more important part of this.
Something that I want to point out from the Zogenix press release is that ZX008 was stated to be generally well-tolerated in the Phase III study, with adverse events consistent with those observed in earlier studies, and also consistent with the known safety profile of Fenfluramine. That's what ZX008 is a low dose of.
Todd, I want to get your input here on what you make of that, given that this drug, Fenfluramine, was part of the infamous Fen-Phen, an obesity drug that was pulled from the market back in the 1990s due to cardiovascular side effects.
Campbell: Breathing new life into an old, discarded drug. Fen-Phen was heralded for its ability to help battle back obesity. However, when push came to shove, after it got used in the real world, it was discovered that it could increase the risk of cardiovascular problems that could lead to death. So, the FDA asked for it to be removed from the market. I'm sure that many people will be weighing that in the back of their minds, doctors and patients, if ZX008 makes its way past the FDA to the market and they're trying to compare these competing drugs.
So far, in hundreds of patients studied by Zogenix, we have not seen any scary cardiovascular signals. It may be that they found the sweet spot, the right amount of dosing that wouldn't cause the cardiovascular problems, but still has efficacy.
The thing that investors ought to realize, too, though, is, you might think, "OK, this is a slam dunk, ZX008. It's Fen, who's going to want to prescribe that?" But, it wasn't like Epidiolex came through with a squeaky-clean safety profile, either. As a matter of fact, patients who get prescribed that drug will have to undergo constant monitoring to make sure they don't end up with elevated liver enzymes, because that was a problem that was observed in its trials.
There's a little bit of a debate here between, we have these two very efficacious products for a patient population that's in desperate need. Remember, Kristine, these people are suffering dozens of seizures per month. Frankly, they don't respond to the current antiepileptics on the market. The difference in 10% of efficacy when you're having dozens, that's a significant efficacy difference, theoretically.
Kristine, I think it'll just come down to perceptions -- how do people perceive marijuana vs. how they perceive Fen-Phen.
Harjes: Yeah, absolutely. Price could be another component, but at this stage, it's too early to tell.
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